certainly do see pathology here because this is a man who is involved in a lot of -- using a lot of defense mechanisms. he uses a lot of regression where he admits that something has happened, such as the birth of his son with his housekeeper, but then, you know, shuts that away and may say, well, i didn't really acknowledge it until years later when he started looking like me. i think he knew from the very beginning that was probably his son because certainly he was involved with this woman and he claims, yes, there was another man in the picture. that's why he didn't own up, but arnold, i really do believe knew what he was doing. he is a smart man. >> jeff, a lot of people look at this, and it's, you know, quite frankly, a lot of my female friends look at this and say, wow, this is a familiar scenario here. someone has cheated on them in their life. why do they do it? >> well, i think a lot of it is the big t, high testosterone. a lot of it is being -- >> that sounds like an excuse. >> well, it is. we do know that because men have more testosterone, they act out more, but there's somethin